Full back embroidery size
A jacket or shirt back design is usually about 6 to 12 in (152 to 305 mm) wide and sits roughly 6 to 10 in (152 to 254 mm) below the collar. A design wider than 7.8 in (198 mm) needs a 9.5 × 14 in hoop, and larger ones need a split design.
| Typical size | 9 × 10 in (229 × 254 mm) |
|---|---|
| Width range | 6–12 in (152–305 mm) |
| Height range | 6–14 in (152–356 mm) |
| Smallest hoop | 9.5 × 14 in (240 × 360 mm) |
| Machines that fit it | 16 in our guide |
Where to place it
Center the design left to right on the back. Placement guides measure down from the collar or neck: 6 to 9 in (152 to 229 mm) to the center of a jacket back design, 7 to 10 in (178 to 254 mm) below the neck, or 9 to 10 in (229 to 254 mm) below the back collar seam. For a shirt back, one chart gives 5 in (127 mm) from the collar and 3 in (76 mm) on small sizes. The guides differ, so mark the spot on the garment and check it before you hoop.
A back design is the largest placement on most garments, and home-machine hoop charts show it. One retailer chart points to a 6 × 10 in hoop for a custom design on the back of a denim jacket, an 8 × 12 in hoop for a full jacket back, and a 9.5 × 14 in hoop for intricate jacket back art. An 8 × 12 in hoop stitches about 7.8 × 11.8 in (200 × 300 mm) and a 9.5 × 14 in hoop about 9.4 × 14.1 in (240 × 360 mm). Baby Lock calls its 9.5 × 14 in hoop a fit for jacket backs. A back design wider than about 9.4 in (239 mm) needs a split design, a multi-position hoop or a machine with a larger frame, so check your own field in the manual.
Placement is measured from the back collar. One guide centers a design or lettering anywhere from 6 to 9 in (152 to 229 mm) down from the collar seam. A trade magazine article says placement guides put a jacket back design 7 to 10 in (178 to 254 mm) down from the neck, and that it varies with design size and jacket style. A placement chart gives 9 to 10 in (229 to 254 mm) down from the back collar seam for a jacket back. For a shirt back, the same chart gives 5 in (127 mm) from the collar, and 3 in (76 mm) on smaller sizes. The guides do not all say whether the number is the top or the center of the design, so mark the point and check how the whole design sits. Smaller and children's garments need a smaller design placed higher, and we did not find a published width chart for them.
Big back designs are harder to hoop and take a long time to run. A trade article says jackets, especially thick ones, are always a challenge to hoop. It suggests hooping them upside down, because the waist opening is bigger than the neck opening, and using a hoop larger than the design needs. If the jacket is thick, small, or made of leather, vinyl or suede, or if seams are in the way, float it: hoop only the stabilizer, mark it, and stick the jacket on top. For a medium or heavy design, baste a square of long stitches around the inside of the hoop. Avoid thick seams where you can, because embroidery struggles to stitch over them.
Stabilizer depends on the garment. A trade article says a sheet of tear-away is enough for a lightweight jacket, little or none is needed on a thick jacket, and cutaway is needed for stretchy knit jackets. A project guide recommends medium-weight cutaway for denim and other medium or heavy fabrics, or for medium and heavy designs. On a lighter jacket with a light design, it suggests lightweight cutaway or a heavy water-soluble stabilizer. A T-shirt or other knit back needs cutaway, because a big design pulls on stretchy fabric.
Tips
- Mark the center point and the vertical and horizontal lines on the garment, and extend the lines past the edge of the hoop so you can line them up.
- Hoop a jacket upside down so the wider waist opening goes over the hoop, and consider a hoop larger than the design.
- Float the jacket instead of hooping it if it is very thick, small, leather or vinyl, or has seams in the way. Hoop only the stabilizer and stick the jacket to it.
- Choose the stabilizer by garment: tear-away or none on woven jackets, medium cutaway for denim and heavy designs, and cutaway for any knit back.
- Keep the design off thick seams, and plan for a long stitch time because a big back design has many stitches.
Check this size on your machine
Machines that can stitch a full back design
These machines hold the typical 9 × 10 in size in one hooping.
- Melco EMT16X (16.1 × 15.5 in)
- Ricoma MT-1501 (19.7 × 14 in)
- Melco BRAVO (12.7 × 10.5 in)
- Brother Stellaire XE1 (9.5 × 14 in)
- Brother Luminaire XP3 (10.7 × 16.1 in)
- Brother Stellaire XJ1 (9.5 × 14 in)
- Brother Dream Machine 2 XV8550D (9.5 × 14 in)
- Pfaff creative 4.5 (14 × 13.8 in)
- Pfaff Creative Sensation Pro (14 × 13.8 in)
- Husqvarna Viking Designer Epic 2 (17.7 × 17.7 in)
- Husqvarna Viking Designer Ruby 90 (14 × 13.8 in)
- Baby Lock Altair 2 (9.5 × 14 in)
- Baby Lock Meridian 2 (9.5 × 14 in)
- Bernina B 880 PLUS (15.7 × 10 in)
- Brother Stellaire XE2 (9.5 × 14 in)
- Husqvarna Viking Designer EPIC 3 (18.1 × 17.7 in)
Frequently asked questions
How big is a jacket back embroidery design?
Home-machine charts put it between about 6 in and the full hoop field. An 8 × 12 in hoop stitches about 7.8 × 11.8 in (200 × 300 mm), and a 9.5 × 14 in hoop about 9.4 × 14.1 in (240 × 360 mm). Wider designs need a split or a larger frame.
How far below the collar should a jacket back design go?
Guides range from 6 to 10 in (152 to 254 mm) below the collar seam or neck, depending on the design size and jacket. One chart gives 9 to 10 in (229 to 254 mm), another centers the design at 6 to 9 in (152 to 229 mm). Mark it and check it before you hoop.
Can I embroider a jacket back in an 8 × 12 in hoop?
Yes, for a design up to about 7.8 × 11.8 in (200 × 300 mm). One retailer chart lists the 8 × 12 in hoop for a full jacket back. Very large or intricate backs may need a 9.5 × 14 in hoop or a split design.
What if the jacket is too thick for the hoop?
Float it. Hoop only the stabilizer, draw your center lines on it, and stick the jacket on top with spray adhesive or a sticky stabilizer. Baste around the hoop edge for a heavier design.
Sources
- support.oesd.com/article/37-monogram-placement
- allstitch.com/pages/embroidery-placement-chart
- impressionsmagazine.com/?p=16274
- emblibrary.com/blogs/projects/how-to-embroider-on-a-jacket
- bsewinn.com/blogs/inspiration/embroidery-hoop-size-chart
- babylock.com/iq-intuition-positioning-embroidery-hoop-and-grid-9-1-2-x-14
- brother-usa.com/products/XE2
- nancyzieman.com/blog/embroidery-2/stabilizer-know-how/